OpenAI Has No Mathematicians Who Understand What It Releases, Critic Says

OpenAI have no mathematicians capable of understanding what they put out

OpenAI Has No Mathematicians Who Understand What It Releases, Critic Says

A Mastodon post from tristanbuckmaster argues that OpenAI lacks mathematicians capable of understanding its own output. The claim targets the mathematical foundations of the company's models, suggesting the people building and shipping them cannot fully grasp the results they produce. The post frames this as a fundamental gap at the lab, not a minor oversight.

OpenAI have no mathematicians capable of understanding what they put out.
  1. tetrisgm

    The problem is that eventually, there will be no humans who can follow the results AI will give. That’s the endgame for this tech: to produce knowledge at speeds and quality beyond what we can

  2. oefrha

    Loosely related, you may want to check your own privacy settings at

    https://chatgpt.com/codex/cloud/settings/data#settings/DataC...

    https://claude.ai/new#settings/data-privacy-controls

    I just realized I've been happily "improving the model for everyone"...

  3. tristanj

    This post is out of date. OpenAI quietly updated the references on their paper earlier today and added several authors.

  4. japgolly

    > our hypodissipative result (which is not public), but as I understand it part of their training data

    How did it become part of their training data if it wasn't public? /confused

  5. simianwords

    Can anyone explain to me why Tristan simply didn't go to settings page and turn off the thing? Especially when Levent was collaborating with him and Levent is completely aware of how the training data is used and the implications thereby?

    If it is oversight, then that's ok and OpenAI can volunteer to make him the lead author which they did. But he's pissed that OpenAI is not letting Levent as well, who had access to internal Anthropic models. So this guy thinks

    1. oh my bad i forgot to turn off the consent thing in settings page

    2. also i'll collaborate with a literal Anthropic employee who has access to their internal models

    3. i'll also reject OpenAI's deal to be the lead author because i want an employee of the competitor to be a part of it

    I don't get the mindset.

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